Posted 21 June 2011 - 10:50 PM
In particular, the vocal delivery and the really funky guitar lead/solo thing in the latter part of the song totally make it one of the best songs on the spectrum for me.
Don't get me wrong, I love all the other songs on Black a shit ton, but TMTYN really stands out to me.
Posted 22 June 2011 - 01:34 PM
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Posted 25 June 2011 - 12:07 AM
casey uses a major IV chord in filth and squalor ("...we'd be suffering") as opposed to a minor iv which would be diatonic
he mixes the modes
Posted 25 June 2011 - 02:31 AM
Posted 25 June 2011 - 07:11 AM
fix'd for gender pseudoneutrality as per c. crescenzo
archon of nothing
and lord of dispersing
but i cannot keep
my cursive phalanges
from fucking cursing
Posted 25 June 2011 - 11:19 AM
in bitter suite part III he goes major IV - minor iv - minor vi for a deceptive cadence
it's insane. no one uses a borrowed iv to resolve to the relative minor
but it's so goud
Posted 25 June 2011 - 01:13 PM
Also, that 'we'd be suffering' chord isn't IV I don't believe.
Far as I can tell the progression is c, Gb, c, Eb, Bb. Which would imply either c minor or Eb major, making that Eb under suffer- either I or III. (Probably I there, so that Bb is the V)
(I'm not so sure about that second c-minor chord, but the rest of it sounds right to me...)
a lá this:
c--------------------------(some tension of sorts here)
i always knew that the damned would inherit the earth/as soon
as they'd learn to speak/we would be suffer-ing
Posted 25 June 2011 - 02:07 PM
i think it's implied the first couple times he does it but i'm pretty sure when then harmonies come in it's something funky like that. the bass goes (assuming cminor) C-c-Gb-c//C-c-Gb-c//Ab-c-Gb-c//Ab-c-G-c or something like that, which definitely does not suggest a borrowed IV, you're right
but i think there's something more going on (there often is with this band)
about to try and figure it out
Posted 25 June 2011 - 02:29 PM
but it REAAALLY sounds like there should be/is.
it's not a Bb either, i'm pretty sure it's either an Ebsus2 or Fsus2. it sounds totally wrong if you play the Bb-
at the statement of the chorus at like 3:03 casey's main vocal line goes to an F while the harmony stays on the Cminor^6 or whatever they're doing. i harmonized along with it a bunch of times and it doesn't sound like anyone's singing a Bb on 'suffering'
i have a really good ear for most things except vocal harmonies (which sucks a lot), so i could be wrong
but i'm pretty sure the chord there is more or less Eb, F, G, C
which could scan as either a c-11^6 or an Fsus2^2 depending on the context.
and at the a capella part there's no bass giving you the root, so it makes it sound kind of dorian and awesome
try singing/playing it by yourself and just going up to an Fmaj at the end (or harmonizing it and going to a Bb on suffer and an Anatural on ring). it sounds fucking cool
but yeah as far as i can tell casey's arrangement has no A natural. :<
Posted 25 June 2011 - 02:31 PM
do you guys think there'd be enough interest in me opening up a Music Theory thread for analyzing TDH songs and shit? i know we already have the tab forum but i'm not really interested in that. i just don't have a lot of people to talk about how Mustard Gas uses mixolydian of harmonic minor and then modulates to the subdominant for the chorus :<
also i'm sure casey would get a kick out of reading all of the insanely complicated and cool stuff he does without knowing how to read music
Posted 25 June 2011 - 02:39 PM
Also, I might not post a ton in it, but I'd lurk the shit outta that thread.
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